A Beginner's Guide to "No Homo"
August 16, 2008
Another one by request.
Posted by jsmooth995 at August 16, 2008 7:46 AM
nice one.
the phrase kinda gets on my nerves. it's just makes you sound a bit insecure. no homo.
Posted by: prince campbell at August 16, 2008 8:09 AM
Dude, you seriously rock my socks. And at the very end of the video, I was laughing hysterically. :)
My greatest hope for the male portion of our population is that they will someday understand how much MORE masculine they seem when they are comfortable enough in their masculinity not to CARE if someone thinks they are gay. And my greatest hope for ALL of us is that we will someday live in a world where being gay isn't something someone wants to avoid being seen as.
Keep preaching it, man, because I like what you are saying. :)
Posted by: Amy at August 16, 2008 8:15 AM
lovely commentary on the lines between reclamation, satire and reinforcing bad frames! my inner linguist is weeping with joy.
Posted by: Deanna at August 16, 2008 8:36 AM
This is a great video all around. Hip-hop is such a perception-heavy institution out of force (not necessity) that it has to start using disclaimers to protect this hypermasculinized culture it's in. That's pretty damned drastic and deep -- and it's all marketing. If you were just kicking it with your boys and you started reciting some lyrics about money coming out of your ass, and they clowned you for it, you would distance yourself from that rapper. Two quick words keeps your sales up, keeps the money popping out of your ass, and keeps the homophobia flowing.
I don't think there's a female equivalent for "no homo," though.
But you knew that, haha. :)
Posted by: SylviaM at August 16, 2008 9:07 AM
I love Jay Smooth. ALL HOMO.
Posted by: jc at August 16, 2008 10:38 AM
jc ftw.
Keep bringin it, Jay!
Posted by: withoutscene at August 16, 2008 11:18 AM
Posted by: E at August 16, 2008 11:31 AM
As sad and hateful as it is, replace "nohomo" with the "N" word and you've got the justification average white folks have between themselves about racist remarks in jest. Lame but true.
Posted by: Dave C. at August 16, 2008 11:46 AM
Posted by: JStein at August 16, 2008 12:52 PM
Good Post. It really started with either Lord Sear, Stretch Armstrong(pause), or Damon Dash.
Posted by: www.flampro.com at August 16, 2008 1:30 PM
Thanks for pointing out that if person X is not the original target of a derogatory term, then person X does not get to "reclaim" the word. That resonated deeply with me.
Posted by: Kelly at August 16, 2008 1:56 PM
You did it again. On point.
Posted by: SH at August 16, 2008 3:59 PM
Posted by: jonrud00 at August 16, 2008 4:40 PM
lol.....
"just forget it came out of my mouth" pretty much sums up the enitre video.
you are gold Jay Smooth.
Posted by: 2parssoul at August 16, 2008 4:51 PM
'No homo' is merely an extension of the misogyny that permeates hip-hop and the rest of the world. If homosexual men were big, brawny, macho guys who acted like men 'are supposed to act' but just liked to fuck other men, there probably wouldn't be much of a problem with it.When men stop hating women, homosexuality will be a non-issue. Kill misogyny and you end many woes in this world. Not just for women. Not just for homosexual men. But for everyone.
As an 'older generation', suburban, white woman who happens to be a homo, I was alarmingly unfamiliar with the whole 'no homo' thing. But, thank you for pointing it out. I like the economy of words. Now, when my 'older generation', suburban, white, hetero dude friends say, 'Not that I like men or anything but...,' I can then tell them all they have to say is, 'no homo'. It is only then you can be assured the phrase will die a healthy death among anyone who even thinks he is remotely 'hip'.
PS...I absolutely love your videos.
Posted by: eb at August 16, 2008 6:01 PM
I've heard this word numerous time, i've read it on blogs but it sounds so goddamn stupid that i've never used it. and because of this video, i will never ever ever ever use it.
No homo.
-Al
Posted by: Al at August 16, 2008 8:31 PM
that.was.awesome. and far overdue. glad to see you still doing your thing man.
Posted by: Jason Reynolds at August 16, 2008 9:55 PM
Now, when my 'older generation', suburban, white, hetero dude friends say, 'Not that I like men or anything but...,' I can then tell them all they have to say is, 'no homo'. It is only then you can be assured the phrase will die a healthy death among anyone who even thinks he is remotely 'hip'.
LOL
Posted by: Dana at August 17, 2008 1:37 AM
Posted by: the little hater at August 17, 2008 2:04 AM
You are ALWAYS saying what I am thinking albeit in a far more eloquent way. Your videos have become part of homeschooling my 13 year old son. Yup, yer a civics class in and of yerself.
You rule the freaking planet.
Posted by: Helenkosings at August 17, 2008 5:32 AM
This HOMO, loves your NO HOMO video. You so rock.
Posted by: RG at August 17, 2008 8:10 AM
Your best yet. Classic. I was cackling at the ending.
Posted by: Varneer at August 17, 2008 2:34 PM
So I first came here from Making Light for the racism video, but I've stuck around even though I'm not a big hip-hop listener because I am learning a lot about the scene and why it is awesome. Also, since the gender and anti-gay references did a lot to turn me off to hip-hop it's really cool to see that there are people on the inside that have intelligent thoughts about these things.
In short: HAWESOME. =D
Posted by: Cassie at August 17, 2008 3:03 PM
I think I just came out of no-homo addict phase, but you know what i hate about when you playin it, people usually intentionally say homo things just so they can get away with it. (which is so breaking the rules of the game).
Also, forgot to mention its white 2nd cousin "That's what she said." Well, i guess that wouldn't fit the homoerotic point.
Posted by: Mr. Rogers at August 17, 2008 3:30 PM
great blog! i'll stay and watch.
Posted by: jbi057 at August 17, 2008 8:20 PM
A friend of mine who's gay worked at a summer program for high schoolers from PA but mostly from Philadelphia--"no homo" was really popular among the kids and not many people got how it was really offensive to people who are gay.
As a way to critique it, my friend started saying "no hetero!"
Posted by: mark at August 17, 2008 9:11 PM
That was so stupid. There is nothing wrong or even slightly homophobic about that term. You are a typical self-righteous white person with way too much time on your hands. Don't talk about hip-hop culture anymore, you sound like a retard.
Posted by: Joe at August 17, 2008 11:39 PM
I really enjoyed this, it was really insightful, tactful, and funny. Although I believe that satire can be a useful device for critiquing prejudice, I've always thought "No homo" was kind of stupid and crude. You've just gained yourself a fan, Mr. Smooth.
Posted by: Matt at August 18, 2008 12:46 AM
^ ^ I don't know if Joe's comment right here is satire or not for obvious reasons.
I can see why No Homo is offensive to gay folks the same way the phrase, "That's gay" is used to denote something unpleasant or defective. I've heard this one used by suburban white kids.
Posted by: Jay B at August 18, 2008 1:51 AM
I never say no homo. If I'm about to say something that might urge me to use the term, I just rephrase it right before I say it, in the most obvious manner possible.
Posted by: vgambit at August 18, 2008 11:19 AM
I Love Jay. Homo. I want to rub his bare naked skin. Homo. I want to taste his saliva straight from his mouth. Homo. I want to play role playing games, he plays Jay, I play his cat, and I lick him. Homo.
Posted by: J at August 18, 2008 2:54 PM
Hillarious J smooth is the best blogger on the internets! His opinions are always insightful as well as comedic. I know I'm on his jock right now (no homo) lol
Posted by: IET at August 18, 2008 8:56 PM
once again, you assess a crappy part of our culture and take it to task, and sounding hella awesome whilst doing it. no wonder you're called jay smooth!
Posted by: retrojayne at August 18, 2008 9:08 PM
Can I just go back to saying pause, lol.
Posted by: Real Talk at August 19, 2008 12:44 PM
Can I just go back to saying pause, lol.
Posted by: Real Talk at August 19, 2008 12:44 PM
'No homo' is merely an extension of the misogyny that permeates hip-hop and the rest of the world. If homosexual men were big, brawny, macho guys who acted like men 'are supposed to act' but just liked to fuck other men, there probably wouldn't be much of a problem with it.
A lot of people say stuff like this, but I don't think it's quite true. I agree that to some extent antigay bigotry is an extension of the misogyny that permeates the world. But that homosexual men might be big, brawny, macho guys who just like to fuck other men is just what scares a lot of guys. Because who are those big macho gay guys going to fuck? Why, them, of course. Which is why fucking other males is a popular wishful-thinking expression of dominance among insecure boys (i.e., just about all of us, including us gay men), but being fucked -- being penetrated at all -- is terrifying. That's why you get the jokes (for example) about soap dropped in the shower: don't bend to pick it up, because you might get punked.
This ties into misogyny, of course, because of its deeprooted assumption that being penetrated is degrading and dirtying. What about the women these guys want to penetrate? Well, they're bitches / whores / sluts. Some women are Angel Mamas, so it's an insult to suggest that they might be penetrated. So homophobia isn't simply disgust at "effeminate" men, however you conceive of them; it's also a terror of being feminized by being penetrated.
Posted by: The Promiscuous Reader at August 19, 2008 9:40 PM
I don't think pause made it further east than philly...no homo.
me and one of my boys have started using the term as a synonym for "for real" and never in the "proper" context...cause it's so inane. no homo.
(i can just imagine someone a la Jim Carey in In Living Color saying 'You're not saying it right!")
But, off the rip we don't have to get REAL political to argue that we've all got a signal commitment to depower the term. The assumptions embedded in the term literally infect all of us, but particularly black and latino men. So it's not quite good enough for us to not use it and critique it's use by others.
no homo.
Posted by: Lester Spence at August 21, 2008 11:04 AM
you americans put way too much value into words............ why the fuck is this even a relevant conversation? im gay, and not in the least worried about what word someone uses or not......
words are just words man
chilax
Posted by: whocares? at August 21, 2008 9:03 PM
"I am not going to say it." lol Priceless. Love it as usual.
Posted by: Jiovanni at August 21, 2008 9:41 PM
Yo Jay the commentary is on point as usual. I often throw out no homo in convos just for the absurdity of it, but i try to follow it up with a NO PHOBO.
Posted by: Sunil at August 23, 2008 2:33 PM
well mr. smooth... seeing the comments that preceeds mine.. i think you've just relaunched it..
looks like nobody has gotten the point!
do not use it! 'no joke' ;)
Posted by: Ejéa at August 24, 2008 7:31 PM
Nothing but love for you bro.
Posted by: Fishsticks at August 26, 2008 10:55 PM
Back again to add a possible guideline for the use of "no homo":
You may amend your statement with "no homo" when you are describing actual homoerotic acts that you have performed, will perform in the near future, desire to perform, or are performing.
That keeps it neatly to reclamation, plus it does have a chance at being funny. ^_^
Posted by: Cassie at August 29, 2008 3:42 AM
Living with the fear of “being” anything is to live in direct contrast with “being” who you really are. Conformity is not the characteristic of fearlessness. Not encouraging homosexual activity in personal relationships or in our culture (in Hip Hop) is actually very respectable. Better put, to exemplify fidelity and responsibly parent your children in (man/woman) relationships is honorable and can inspire a positive impact on someone close to you. Less favorable than a fear to be gay in Hip Hop is the exploitation of women, drug solicitation, and violence.
For beginners, the term “No Homo” is actually very homo, introducing homo-erotic images into conversation from phrases that make no sexual references at all …that is until “No Homo” is said.
Example: the end of the video – “forget that it came out of my mouth”
It’s disgusting and annoying, but it’s not a “should I – should I not” say it (type of thing) as to imply that someone may be offended. It’s simply an impractical and futile attempt to dispel homosexual connotations from one’s own statement …more offensive to a heterosexual.
Posted by: Dj Will Power at August 29, 2008 3:24 PM
I despise the use of the term but hey some people like to follow trends...Jay you are a trip
Posted by: Praverb at August 31, 2008 6:41 AM
Yo Jay
What do you think bout variations on it, like this:
Man i heard you run New York (no Cuomo)
or
Damn, im tryna get down with a Hebrew National dog (no shlomo)
or
that painting really bends society's norms (no PoMo)
???
Posted by: ADS at September 3, 2008 7:11 PM
Posted by: Stuart A Thompson at September 5, 2008 4:42 PM
I just found your blog. And I have a huge crush on you.
Posted by: Ryan at September 5, 2008 9:18 PM
I think some of the homophobic culture in hip-hop is profoundly offensive...which can also make it a occasionally funny.
I came across this, and thought of your blog post.
http://tinyurl.com/62xyny
Posted by: trish_thedish at September 7, 2008 5:22 PM
I don't know how I came across this vlog via youtube, but it's got me hooked on the rest of your stuff.
YOU ARE BRILLIANT!
Posted by: Kiki at September 10, 2008 1:44 PM
LOL! Finally somebody has the bravery to stand up and speak out against one of the stupidest phrases of all time. People who say 'no homo' are insecurefags.
Posted by: jon at September 19, 2008 7:22 PM
me and one of my boys have started using the term as a synonym for "for real" and never in the "proper" context...cause it's so inane. no homo.
nice thought, but using "no homo" to mean "for real" is about the same as "no lie" or "no joke".
implying that homos are lies or jokes doesn't sound very respectful to me...
Posted by: than at September 28, 2008 5:09 PM
It's like when my queer friends and I say "that's so gay" to make fun of homophobes. And sometimes we switch it up and say "that's so straight."
On a totally different note, I love your voice. No hetero.
Posted by: em at October 9, 2008 3:09 AM
I prefer "no dodo" as a mock version of that saying.
It's not even the prejudice that annoys me. It's the mixing of ignorance (which they are actually PROUD of. lol) and violence. To be that violent about something they know so little about and are frankly too fucking stupid to even research is ridiculous.
Gotta love it. lol. Racism, sexism, homophobia, religion pushed as a casual fashion trend minus any real messages or criticisms, simultaneous mixing of hardcore violence and anti-intellectualism, hatred of other's musical tastes. I mean, I know all genre's fanbases have some level of elitism and ignorance, but FUCK. I think mainstream "rap" culture is setting a new record. Most negative by far.
Posted by: Brad at October 13, 2008 4:42 PM
lol u sound like a black guy
Posted by: scrapz at November 3, 2008 12:14 PM
thanks so much for this video. just became aware of the phrase earlier and now i feel sufficiently informed.
Posted by: jj at November 12, 2008 4:27 PM
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